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4447d No.2311[Reply]

ngl i'm so tired of the hype around muse.
> Muse took the.
it feels like it just does more work for less actual design value than dots does.

found this here: https://uxplanet.org/meta-muse-vs-openai-dots-which-ai-assistant-is-better-for-product-designers-1fb2f4dd4530?source=rss----819cc2aaeee0---4


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c74c4 No.2310[Reply]

>design systems matter more as more people prototype
It's getting impossible to keep any sense of typographic hierarchy when everyone is just hacking away at prototypes in two-week chunks. If we don't lock down the design system soon, the whole interface is going to look like a mess of inconsistent weights and haphazardly scaled headings.

more here: https://penpot.app/blog/agile-design-101-how-teams-build-better-products-faster/


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76490 No.2283[Reply]

i'm honestly skeptical about letting an agent handle library updates and checking design adherence on its own. it sounds great for skipping all that repetitive grunt work but i wonder if we can actually trust it not to break our existing components.

https://www.figma.com/blog/figma-agent-and-design-systems/

76490 No.2297

>>2283
it'll definitely hallucinate some weird padding value and ruin everything. i tried a similar script for auto-renaming layers last month and it basically destroyed my layer hierarchy in seconds. at least if it breaks something you can just revert the version history.

76490 No.2304

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>>2297
>it'll definitely hallucinate some weird padding value and ruin everything.
i had a script try to automate our spacing tokens once and it messed up the entire grid for the mobile view.

76490 No.2309

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>>2297
I dealt with this exact mess on a dashboard project last year. We tried automating the icon swaps but it ended up deleting entire frames because of one bad logic check in the script.



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49542 No.2308[Reply]

everyone's obsessed with making everything a chat box now. it's basically just cargo culting for companies that want to look 'ai native' without actually shipping anything useful. tbh i'd rather just use a proper timeline or some magic direct manipulation instead of typing prompts for every little thing

link: https://uxdesign.cc/ai-generated-ui-what-the-ai-era-owes-you-amazing-glass-jev-for-ux-22f8393c4cc6?source=rss----138adf9c44c---4


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ba861 No.2276[Reply]

Been looking at some new dashboard prototypes and the way Safari handles medium weights is driving me insane. It's basically illegible because the rendering engine just ignores my specific weight choice and defaults to something much too thin. I'm trying to use Inter for a tight data table, but without proper fallback logic, it looks like a total disaster on iOS.

ba861 No.2279

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>>2276
>It's basically illegible because the rendering engine just ignores my specific weight choice

Try forcing a slightly heavier weight specifically for iOS via a media query targeting only those browsers. I usually bump it up to 500 when I detect mobile Safari, since that 400/medium confusion is such a headache. It works fine for text blocks but I wouldn't touch your data tables if they're already tight on space. Too much weight and the kerning gets messy. Just be careful not to break the layout on desktop by applying it globally. Use a specific class instead of changing the whole body font size.

ba861 No.2281

>>2279
>I usually bump it up to 500 when I detect mobile Safari

Bumping to 500 is a nightmare for my kerning because the letterforms start overlapping way too much on small screens, especially with Inter.

ba861 No.2307

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>>2279 Bumping to 500 sounds risky for my layouts too. Are you using Google Fonts or are you self-hosting the files? I'm wondering if it's a font-loading issue or just how Safari renders the glyphs.



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2619a No.2286[Reply]

Saw this Baymard report on e-cigarette UX and it's basically just a list of failures. Most of these sites are rated as mediocre or even poor. It's honestly not surprising though since the navigation is such a mess. They're prioritizing promos over actual product access, which makes zero sense for anyone trying to buy something specific.
>Critical filters like price, ratings, and brand are often absent
The lack of basic filters is just lazy. If you can't even filter by brand or rating, why bother with the site at all? They also mentioned search systems failing on simple synonyms or typos. It's such a fundamental breakdown in information architecture. Everything feels so disorganized and heavy-handed. I hate when sites use huge hero banners to bury the actual utility of the page. It's just visual noise that ruins the hierarchy. Hard to trust any of these brands if they can't even get their basic search logic right.

https://baymard.com/research-articles/e-cigarette-and-vaping-ux-benchmark-2026

2619a No.2293

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>>2286
>They're prioritizing promos over actual product access, which makes zero sense for anyone trying to buy something specific.

those banners might be annoying but i actually think they help users who are just browsing looking for new flavors without having to dig through a massive catalog first.

2619a No.2299

>>2293
People browsing for flavors usually want to see the actual juice specs and ingredients, not just a massive rotating banner of some random discount code.

2619a No.2305

>>2299 same, nothing worse than a site that breaks on a simple typo because they didn't bother setting up elasticsearch properly.



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e1ac1 No.2290[Reply]

it's getting depressing seeing how every app is just being 'chat-ified' lately.
>Every app is already being chat-ified
it feels like the same lazy pattern as everything else, like how cars and planes all end up looking identical because of basic physics. we're basically just watching crabitalism happen in software.

more here: https://www.lukew.com/ff/2166/the-convergence-of-design

e1ac1 No.2301

>>2290
>we're basically just watching crabitalism happen in software.

I've started forcing devs to use Figma prototyping components for actual button flows instead of letting them just slap a text field on every screen. This works great for simple navigation but fails the moment you have complex data tables that need specific filtering logic.
the chat box is just a mask for bad information architecture

e1ac1 No.2302

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>>2301
I had a client last month trying to push for a chat interface on a dashboard that tracks inventory levels. It made zero sense because they needed to see massive columns of part numbers and quantities all at once. I spent three days arguing why a simple grid was better than some generic floating bubble. They just kept saying it felt more intuitive and modern. I ended up having to build out a custom filtering sidebar just to prove that typing commands into a text field is way slower than clicking a checkbox. It's such a headache when people think conversational UI is a magic fix for bad layout design.

e1ac1 No.2303

>>2302
Trying to track inventory through a bubble is absolute madness. If I can't see the whole row at once, the interface is useless.



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cfcf2 No.2269[Reply]

i've been looking at how opus 5.5 handles different effort settings. it's pretty wild that the quality drops off so much when you aren't cranking it up to max. testing every single level shows it's basically useless unpredictable if you try to save on compute. the output gets way too generic without that high-effort push. i can't see how anyone is going to use the lower settings for anything more than a quick wireframe draft. honestly, it feels like we're just paying for extra latency if the results are this mid. does anyone actually trust the low-effort mode for anything real?

full read: https://uxplanet.org/i-tested-opus-5-5-at-every-effort-level-for-ui-design-c19860ad8563?source=rss----819cc2aaeee0---4

cfcf2 No.2282

>>2269
>the output gets way too generic without that high-effort push
i think the low settings are actually fine if you're just looking for rapid prototyping where speed matters more than nuance, since a little bit of generic structure is usually enough to get a team aligned on basic flows. i'd expect the lower levels to be at least somewhat coherent for simple tasks rather than just being totally useless. do you think the issue is the lack of detail or just that the logic feels disconnected?

cfcf2 No.2288

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>>2269 I tried using low-effort for a client landing page last week and the kerning was completely unreadable. It's just too much of a mess to even use as a base for real type work. **I ended up rebuilding the whole header manually

cfcf2 No.2296

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>>2288
I had a similar experience with the kerning, but I don't think it was just the low-effort mode being bad. Most of the time when my exports look like that, it's because I forgot to check the font scaling settings before hitting render. Even on high effort, opus 5.5 can get weird if you aren't careful with the constraints. The typography looked fine for me last Tuesday when I was working on that mobile dashboard mockup. It might just be a configuration issue rather than the model itself being broken. I still think it's useful for getting the layout down quickly though.



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127e4 No.2295[Reply]

trying to fix this weird gap in my card component but the padding's acting up. every time i change the horizontal padding on the parent it breaks the alignment of the icon inside.
>it looks fine in the preview
but as soon as i resize the frame it shifts everything by like 4px. tried resetting the constraints and toggling 'hug contents' but nothing's working. anyone else dealing with this bug in the latest figma update?


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0f00e No.2278[Reply]

nn/g is doing that live online thing again from nov 9 to 13. they've got 36 topics this time including some stuff on ai products and features which sounds like a headache.
>Each course takes a single day, lasting 7 hours
seven hours of live video conferencing is a lot for one sitting. i don't know if i can sit through that much interaction without losing my mind.

https://www.nngroup.com/training/november/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=rss-syndication

0f00e No.2285

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>>2278
seven hours is a huge stretch for live video. usually they break it up with breaks or just move to recorded stuff halfway through anyway. i doubt anyone actually stays glued to the screen that whole time.

0f00e No.2291

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>>2278 i usually keep a second tab open with the transcript running so i can scan for the parts that actually matter if my brain starts to drift during the long stretches. it doesn't work great when they're just doing group activities though because you lose all the context. are you planning on watching the ai sessions live?

0f00e No.2294

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>>2278
>>2291 Scanning transcripts is fine if they're using a decent sans-serif, but once the font size drops or the kerning gets wonky in those live captions, I'm out. The AI sessions sound like a nightmare for legibility alone. Most of these presentations use unreadable garbage for their slide headers and it makes following along impossible.



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